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Debbie Macomber:
the interview
by Catherine Cockburn

With 70 million copies of her books in print and many titles on
the bestseller lists,
Debbie
Macomber’s rise to the pinnacle of romance fiction might
seem an easy ride. However, Debbie battled dyslexia, raised four
young children, and wrote her first novels in her kitchen on a
rented typewriter.
It took Debbie five years to sell her first manuscript,
Heartsong, to Silhouette and untold sacrifices by Debbie and her
husband, Wayne. In spite of a busy writing schedule, Debbie is a
member of the Board of Directors for Warm-Up America!, a charity
knitting organisation, and is actively involved in Guideposts
Advisory Council, established by Norman Vincent Peale. She
supports the local Literacy Council and is active in her church.
Catherine: So. Debbie, has your family life inspired you to
write such memorable stories? Are you influenced by
relationships with friends, other women, and your volunteering
work?
Debbie: My family and my friendships are naturally a source of
inspiration for my writing. As an example, my own group of
professional women that meets every Thursday morning at 7.30 was
the inspiration for Thursdays at Eight. The spirit of my group
(the camaraderie and the support we give each other) translated
well to the book, but the actual circumstances in the book are
fiction.
In early June, while meeting with my Thursdays at Eight group,
we all had the most extraordinary experience: a woman was
reading Thursdays at Eight while our group was sitting directly
across from her! One of my friends went over and introduced
herself as a member of the original Thursday group, and invited
the woman, Sue, to sit down and join us. This small encounter
absolutely made our day.
Can you tell us a little of your early years of writing -
your struggle to sell your first manuscript and who you
approached? Did you have the support of any writing
organisations back then or were you writing ‘in the dark’, so to
speak?
When I first started out as a writer in 1978 it was with a
rented typewriter on the kitchen table. I didn’t know another
writer in the world. Romance Writers of America wasn’t founded
until 1980, so I was basically alone in the dark. I did have a
mentor - Virginia Meyers, whom I met in 1982, just before I sold
my first book - so I fully understand the importance of
mentoring.
I wrote four complete manuscripts and submitted them to
Harlequin and later Silhouette. It was a long journey to
publication for me; publishing that first book was the hardest
goal I’ve ever achieved. I wrote four books in five years and
underwent a barrage of rejections. Yet, I know that if I’d given
up because it was just too hard to publish, I would have lost a
piece of my soul.
I read that at your first ever conference as an unpublished
author the organisers picked ten manuscripts to review in a
group critique session and a Harlequin editor tore your
manuscript up in front of the crowded room. Can you tell us a
little about this? How did you overcome such a humiliating
experience, not only to have the editor do that, but to have the
other writers think it was funny? Did you ultimately sell that
manuscript?
That romance writers’ workshop was a turning point in my life.
My manuscript had been chosen to be reviewed and I was ecstatic,
certain that this was the opportunity of a lifetime. The two
editors stood at the front of the auditorium filled with 300
romance writers and announced that one of the ten manuscripts
they’d reviewed showed a great deal of promise. I was certain it
had to be mine. It wasn’t. In fact, the editor had the entire
room laughing at the infeasibility of my plot. Although that was
difficult enough to listen to, I know how important it is to be
willing to rewrite. After the workshop I introduced myself to
that editor and asked her if I revised the manuscript, would she
be willing to look at it again. It’s been 24 years now and even
now I can vividly recall the look that came over her as she
leaned forward, put her hand on my arm, and said, “Throw it
away!” This was after I’d written four complete manuscripts and
invested five years in a writing career.
Yes, that manuscript did sell - the same manuscript - a little
more than six weeks later to Silhouette Books, and launched a
new line of category books for them. I learned valuable lessons
from that experience - one of which is that a writer needs to
learn to separate herself from her work and look at it
objectively. Then she can revise effectively and turn the
manuscript into a work that is saleable. That’s part of becoming
a working writer.
How did the professional relationship between you and
Harlequin Executive Editor, Paula Eykelhof, start? Have you
presented any workshops together before?
Paula and I have worked together for almost 21 years. We have a
fabulous partnership. Paula knows my strengths and weaknesses
and is able to draw out the very best in me as a writer and
storyteller. Paula works just as hard as I do and is a masterful
editor. I feel blessed to have worked with her for the majority
of my career. We like to joke that we’re like Helen Keller and
Annie Sullivan, but we haven’t figured out yet who plays whom
(or maybe the roles change from time to time!). Over the years
we’ve done a number of workshops together (on the editor-author
relationship, handling revisions, how to get published and other
topics).
Can you give the readers a typical breakdown of your writing
day and how you balance professional and family life?
On weekdays I rise at 4 am and take time for myself by reading
my Bible and writing in my journal. Then I go to the local high
school pool and swim a half-mile. By 8 am I’m in my office,
where I read and answer my mail and email. Then I prepare my
blog and take care of personal e-mail. Around 10 am I start my
pages for the day. I have a number of pages set for each day and
don’t leave the office until I’m finished. I generally stay
until 4 or 5pm.
As much as possible I reserve weekends and evenings for family.
Each summer we try to schedule a family vacation, such as a
holiday weekend at the beach. Last year we had a fabulous Alaska
cruise.
Do you have any favorite settings for your books? How many
books do you aim to write each year? Do some books write
themselves, while others are like pulling teeth? How many staff
do you have to help you achieve this and what are their roles?
I grew up in Yakima, Washington, in a close-knit community with
several cousins living nearby. My husband is from Colville,
Washington, also a small town and we live in Port Orchard, yet
another small town. It’s natural, I suppose, that small towns
would appeal to me and inspire me. I love to write about the
connectedness of women, neighbours and communities. They’re a
microcosm for many different backgrounds and situations.
My writing commitment for the next several years is one women’s
fiction hardcover, one original mass paperback novel (that would
be a Cedar Cove book) and one gift-size romantic comedy for
Christmas each year. That’s three original books. I occasionally
write a series book, as well. In July I’ll have an American
Romance, The Wyoming Kid, and in 2008, I’ll be publishing an
Everlasting romance.
I moved my office out of my home and into an office in the
business community starting in 1994. The small rented office has
evolved into a two-story complex with two full-time assistants
and two others who work part time. Renate Roth has been my
personal assistant for nearly twelve years and is my right hand-
I couldn’t function without her. Heidi Pollard is Renate’s
assistant and takes care of all the guest book entries, reader
mail and whatever else Renate assigns her. Wanda Roberts handles
all the finances and bookkeeping matters, and Doris LaPorte
comes in once a week for errands and odd jobs, plus cleaning the
offices.
Where do you get the ideas for your books? I’m particularly
intrigued with your upcoming release from Mira, Christmas
Letters, about (and I quote) “a woman who earns extra money for
the holidays by writing Christmas letters for her friends. She
makes the trials and tribulations of the year sound like
triumphs.” (As the Christmas newsletter is the only way many of
us keep in touch with extended family, I’m sure this will strike
a chord with many readers.)
Like most writers, I find that my ideas come from anywhere and
everywhere. This story, however, is based on my own experience.
I’ve always been the family communicator, and have always
written the annual family Christmas letter. Family and friends
would tell me that they particularly looked forward to these.
Early on, they encouraged me to be a writer after reading my
Christmas letters.
Most people try to put a positive slant on their annual
Christmas letter, even if the year hasn’t been the greatest. I
just took it a little further and made it a little more
humorous.
It must have been a thrill seeing This Matter of Marriage
turned into a movie in 1998! Were you happy with the result? Are
there any more movie adaptations of your books planned?
I had my own two seconds of fame as the words “based on a book
by Debbie Macomber” flashed on the television screen. We had a
small party with my local writers’ group to celebrate when the
movie premiered on television on Valentine’s Day 1998.
So far, no new adaptations have taken place. Two books were
optioned a couple of years ago but those options have since
lapsed. So much for my brilliant Hollywood career, but who knows
what the future holds?
Several of your latest books, Susannah’s Garden, The Shop on
Blossom Street and A Good Yarn, feature gardening and knitting
as themes. The way these activities are woven into the story
seems to be a metaphor representing life’s threads coming
undone, new life, healing, family bonds. Was this your intention
when writing them? Do you feel this made the stories more
powerful?
Gardening is featured in Susannah's Garden, as I wrote this book
shortly after my father passed away and my brother and I were
helping Mom adjust to life without Dad. She was an avid gardener
and her garden was the envy of my Yakima neighborhood. Many of
the emotions involved with her slide into ill health and
Alzheimer’s disease are reflected in this book.
Many women in my age group are experiencing the problems of the
“sandwich generation” - the situations inherent in coping with
aging parents and at the same time taking care of our own
families and children. These situations are of universal concern
to women. So I took the experiences I’d had, added a few twists
and turns and came up with the idea for Susannah’s Garden. I
think because the situation was so real to me, it rang true for
my readers, too.
I love the covers on many of your single title books, they
are immediately appealing. Do you have much say in the artwork,
or does a particular artist supply your covers?
I have been extremely fortunate with the gorgeous covers that
Harlequin and MIRA produce for my books. The artist’s name is
Deborah, so we have a connection there. I would love to meet her
because I feel she’s perfectly captured the tone of my books.
What do you like to do to relax? I believe you’re a keen
knitter and have a room full of yarn! Are we likely to see you
doing a bit of knitting during the conference and who do you
like to knit for? Do you use your yarn for anything other than
knitting?
I usually knit while traveling in the car or on a plane trip,
but don’t knit during a conference or a lecture. My favorite
projects are socks knit on two circular needles; I make them for
all the members of my family. And, of course, I knit all sorts
of garments for the grandkids. Yarn is a sensory thing for me,
with all its colours and textures. It also affords me the
opportunity to dream of future projects. And it’s a tangible way
of reliving the wonderful adventures I’ve had, as I try to visit
a yarn store wherever I am (and I certainly expect to find some
wonderful yarns in Australia!).
Can you tell us a bit about your mentoring work for young
people and prisoners?
Unfortunately because of time limitations and my traveling
schedule I don’t mentor young people any more. The prisoner is
from Prison Fellowship, a Christian organisation, and I write
about once a month and encourage him in his faith. I do try to
help other writers as much as possible and encourage those who
are as yet unpublished.
Are you hoping to see any particular sights while in
Australia?
My husband is eager to scuba dive the Great Barrier Reef. I
recently purchased a book about Australia and look forward to
delving into it in preparation for our visit. I can’t wait to
meet people, to explore your beautiful country and (of course)
to shop.
What tips or advice do you have for writers still hoping to
be discovered?
I would suggest that writers pay close attention to the market;
read current bestsellers, analyse each story, and look for the
key element that is drawing an audience. Who would ever have
imagined that The Life of Pi by Yann Martel would command the
audience it has? Or The Da Vinci Code? As writers, it’s
important for us not to follow trends in fiction, but to analyse
life and start our own trends. Here’s an example: It was when I
saw a lot of angel figurines turning up in catalogues that I
wrote the first Shirley, Goodness and Mercy Christmas book (and
readers are still asking for stories about those characters).
When I saw that others were as passionate about knitting as I
was, I decided to write The Shop on Blossom Street.
Can you give our unpublished authors some words of wisdom and
inspiration about realising their dream of being published one
day?
What I’d like to say is to believe in yourself and the power of
your dreams. Breaking into publishing isn’t for the faint of
heart. Selling that first book was the hardest challenge I ever
undertook and even with determination and an unwillingness to
quit, it took me five years.
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